Necessary Improvements in Transparency and Bounty Tracking in OpenGov

Transparency in OpenGov is essential to fostering the trust and loyalty of the community, investors, and holders. This concept involves sharing relevant and accurate information about operations, finances, and other key areas of a government.

However, achieving a good level of transparency to the point of pleasing everyone is not an easy task; it requires a strong ethical commitment from all parties involved.

One of the weaknesses I’ve encountered these days is access to tracking approved bounties (specifically, I focused on those receiving child bounties). I will detail some points to clarify what I am referring to below:

->> I did not find a way to filter child bounties on a single screen, where I can see the parent number, title, short description, proposer, status (active, canceled, among others), the referendum by which it was approved, members or curators, and the type (marketing, development, among others).

These are some interesting data that, as a user, I would like to know because if I want to participate actively in OpenGov, I want to know what is currently being done or what is missing. Perhaps I can give ideas for efforts to be directed to uncovered topics. Or maybe I am a community member and would like to see if there is an active bounty in which I can participate and contribute with my skills, experience, or influence.

->> Another detail is that several proposals do not provide easy access to any social media of the team members (curators). Perhaps some are well known within the community, but we must also consider those who are new and do not know the influential members of the ecosystem.

Some might say it is unnecessary. Umm, I 100% disagree. Transparency must come from the ground up, and the base is your reputation (to whom is the project being entrusted?).

Transparency in OpenGov is essential to fostering the trust and loyalty of the community, investors, and holders. This concept involves sharing relevant and accurate information about operations, finances, and other key areas of a government.

However, achieving a good level of transparency to the point of pleasing everyone is not an easy task; it requires a strong ethical commitment from all parties involved.

One of the weaknesses I’ve encountered these days is access to tracking approved bounties (specifically, I focused on those receiving child bounties). I will detail some points to clarify what I am referring to below:

->> I did not find a way to filter child bounties on a single screen, where I can see the parent number, title, short description, proposer, status (active, canceled, among others), the referendum by which it was approved, members or curators, and the type (marketing, development, among others).

These are some interesting data that, as a user, I would like to know because if I want to participate actively in OpenGov, I want to know what is currently being done or what is missing. Perhaps I can give ideas for efforts to be directed to uncovered topics. Or maybe I am a community member and would like to see if there is an active bounty in which I can participate and contribute with my skills, experience, or influence.

->> Another detail is that several proposals do not provide easy access to any social media of the team members (curators). Perhaps some are well known within the community, but we must also consider those who are new and do not know the influential members of the ecosystem.

Some might say it is unnecessary. Umm, I 100% disagree. Transparency must come from the ground up, and the base is your reputation (to whom is the project being entrusted?).

I believe this data should be easily accessible on Polkassembly. Although I also believe OG tracker has been funded, it is still not available. So, if we only have the referendums on Polkassembly, to make things easier, perhaps adding a notice or banner indicating that I can track approved referendums on OG tracker would be appropriate.

I have created a database with filters on Notion. I went to several links to gather as much information as possible. I added properties like those I described above that I would like to have easily in one place, and I missed some that I would also like to add, such as: DOT awarded / DOT claimed and from / until when it will be active.

You can check it here.

I also came across bounties that I could not deduce if they are active or not.

You may find some errors, and you can come back here and tell me so I can correct them. Anyway, I look forward to your comments on the topic in general and the state of the tools we currently have available in OpenGov.

X: @Lily_Mendz


update 11/08/24

I added another property (Report) where I will place the links to the reports shared by those in charge of the bounty

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Hi lilymendzdev!

Your post should be on the Wish for Dhange track, unless you just wanted to discuss the data points you are missing.

Thanks for sharing your work. I do not think there is a page, app, or way to display all of the details described in one view (yet). I agree that there is not enough or any records or data being collected on-chain for the activities post-distribution or after the referenda passes.

You may already be aware, but Polkassembly includes the Child Bounties list on the bounty page. Here is the Marketing AMI Bounty page:

I was hoping the Bounty Dashboard included the details of the bounties, including the Bounty balance and Child Bounty details. The challenge is having the data requirements defined and someone responsible for entering that data - more importantly, making sure the data is correct and entered properly. There are Grant Management software or commercial CRM/Project management tools with automated work flows for the entire grant process - including AI tools to review applications, review and verify expenditures (OCR), notifications and reporting. Unfortunately, there are no open source software or projects (that I could find) built for Grant Management.

I made a simplified version using Monday CRM, but stopped wasting my time after seeing no community support to stop the pillaging of the Treasury and realizing your input and contributions don’t matter unless you are a validator with a shit ton of DOT.

The problems and backlash from the marketing bounties have not been addressed and the grift never stopped - the DOT continues to flow out and incresing their voting control day by day. Every legitimate marketing opportunity that will be proposed will get slammed by 45M Nay votes like all of the current Treasury referendums.

Thank you for participating in this conversation, yes, my idea was to raise here how necessary it is to have more transparency in the monitoring of the Bounty awarded

Yes, even in my list I added a link to this page for each parent

In my opinion, there is a lack of access to a lot of data in a single site, why pay for the development of several sites if you can optimize one just for it?

I think there is a need to educate the community about the power of governance. Every product needs Marketing, but there are definitely marketing proposals that are not appropriate for crypto and even less so for Polkadot.

I’m going to share an update on this conversation and show you a more visual idea of what I have in mind to improve access to detailed information about each active bounty (granting child bounties) on Polkadot, all in one place.

In an excellent article, DaBlock reflected on how the development of a website dedicated to bounties could encourage more participation in the ecosystem while increasing user trust by providing tools that showcase the transparency of Polkadot and its agents, who use bounties to grow the ecosystem.

However, what I’m proposing is something simpler, as we can access child bounty information through links on the main bounty page.

What do you think? I’m handling the development, so it will be simple but functional. As I mentioned before, the key is to have a clear view of what’s available at the moment, so anyone who wants to contribute knows where to go.

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Thanks for your efforts here!

There are definitely no standards today around how bounty decisions are made, recorded for posterity or presented to the community and it’s up to each bounty curator set to figure this out for themselves. It’s also potentially unclear which bounties exist or are active at any point in time, or how to find off-chain information about them. It’s a tall order to wrangle this but someone needs to do it :slight_smile:

There are a few bounty organization-related efforts that I remember from OpenGov. Perhaps they can help, or at least you can be aware of them:

Leemo is currently proposing a “cleanup” of bounties: Bounty Cleanup | Polkassembly

Tom (StakePlus) was previously funded to create an indexer and API to underlie a future “agents” program, and I imagine it should index bounty related information, e.g. “To build a scalable and secure system for comprehensive data collection and processing, essential for capturing a broad spectrum of agent activities within the ecosystem.” Polkadot Agents Program - Phase 1 | Polkassembly

There was a recently awarded project by Galaniprojects GmbH to create a “Bounty Manager,” though at first glance it appears to be more on the management side rather than awareness or reporting: Treasury Proposal: Polkadot Bounty Manager UI Development | Polkassembly

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I love it! Thanks so much for this work :heart:.
We are going to publish a landing page compiling the ecosystem bounties on dablock.com inspired by your design and expand the info about each bounty, your initial compilation and research is so helpful! :pray:

We will probably also change the structure of the individual profile for each bounty (the current one is the generic one for the individual pages of the directory elements, here some examples: Polkadot Anti-Scam Team, Polkadot Marketing Bounty).

In any case, it is ideal that this type of landing pages and information are well organized and also available or directly linked on platforms such as Subsquare or Polkassembly, since that is where they will have more relevant visibility, aka is where it is most helpful to users.

Thinking back, forums and governance tools could be very good content portals if they were worked on more with that approach :laughing:.

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Hi @replghost :slightly_smiling_face:

Yes, for someone who’s just arriving, or rather for everyone, it’s difficult to get updated information on the bounties. During the time I’ve spent gathering the available information, I’ve noticed that some teams are very disorganized and don’t have accessible information—it’s like you have to search under every stone to find it.

I’m aware of Leemo’s referendum, I even commented on it about some of the bounties.

I’ve also read about the agents program, but I’m not sure if it includes something like this or if it only focuses on the agents and their contributions.

I think the Bounty Manager refers more to the interface for interacting with bounties and managing them from the perspective of the proposers, curators, and beneficiaries.

What I’ve designed here is a simple landing page that gathers information on all bounties and provides a profile for each one, where all the details of the bounty in question can be found. Hopefully, I’ll be able to access more information about each bounty to make it more complete (I hope to have collaboration from all the teams).

Anyway, this is my small contribution to the ecosystem :smiling_face:

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Hi @LV5 :slightly_smiling_face:

I love it! Maybe we can join forces, and with the information I’ve gathered and continue to update, it could make your work easier, and we can deliver this to the community soon :grinning:

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Sure! Lets keep talking on matrix (@lv5:matrix.org) or discord (lv555) and lets do it. It’s wonderful to find more people with who collaborate, with the same concerns about organizing all the chaos of information and data that exists. :face_holding_back_tears:.

We can try to deliver a first view for the landing page for the bounties and the first individual profiles on the next week.

In any case, I plan to make the management of entire dablock portal public as soon as possible, so that it can be managed and updated directly by the community once all is well configured.

The first step would be to migrate the research made for the portal and management of all its curated and categorized data gathered during the last year to a public Github repository instead of working it on Google Sheets. This way I imagine it will be easier to find it so that other projects and portals in the ecosystem can take advantage of it, such as parachains.info, polkadot.com, etc. etc.

There are many steps ahead^^, but the primary goal is to make the management of the portal and all related work as open and accessible as possible for Polkadot DAO members.

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Related:

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Thanks for that :smiling_face:

Hello everyone, I want to share my completed work on the data collection of all the bounties.
I’m sharing it in PDF format; it’s an interactive PDF, so you will find links in some data (for example, the proposals link to Polkassembly). I tried to gather as much information as possible.

Some bounties are very well organized, such as 17 and 42, but there are many others where accessing all the information in one place is not easy or does not exist at all.

I also tried to include contact information for the curators and proposers. If any of those without this information would like to provide it for inclusion, I would appreciate it. If there are any errors, please let me know so I can update the information.

Additionally, there is a link inside to access the updated data on a dashboard in Dune regarding the claimed DOT.

In short, I hope this is useful and that this information can be used for the best purposes.

It took over 70 hours of work and research, but I believe the result is worth it.

I look forward to your comments!

The Bounties Book (PDF)

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beautiful cover page illustration @lilymendzdev :tada:

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Thank you for preparing this :pray: Very helpful for me :clap:

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This might be gone in a week’s time:

Would be great if you could turn this into a website that could be easily updated.

…or maybe we just need to improve this one to include updates from the bounties (curator set updates, news etc):

It´s the best place for that :wink:

I don’t think we need to create another website just for this. Personally, I prefer it to be displayed on Polkassembly on the Bounties page.

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