# Account creation: BEEFY

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**Created:** [March 24, 2024, 6:43am UTC](https://forum.polkadot.network/t/account-creation-beefy/6985 "2024-03-24T06:43:46Z")\
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Following up on [a thread](https://forum.polkadot.network/t/keyless-accounts-aip-61/6941/1) suggesting BEEFY was worth looking into I reviewed what in could find, (referenced below).

The context here would be two Relay Chains of the type-I or type-II that Jeff Burdges mentions in the thread above.

As best I can tell these are the participants in a BEEFY (cross chain) transaction:

- External Light Client
- External Relayer
- Relay Chain Host

and this is a summary of the activities that a BEEFY transaction might be expected to generate:

- MMR operations
- Payload exchange
- Signed Commitment
- Witness Data
- Voting on Payloads
- Committing Witnesses
- Requesting Signed Commitments
- Consensus Work
- Manage state data
- Change state data

As best I can tell there is no explicit provision for account creation - or does that fall under the rubric of “Change state data” and “Manage state data”.

To be clear the scenario would be a Relay Chain creating an account (non-private) in response to a request originating from another external Relay Chain, or non-Substrate chain.

References:

- [6. Finality | Polkadot Protocol Specification](https://spec.polkadot.network/sect-finality#sect-grandpa-beefy)
- [Polkadot Consensus · Polkadot Wiki](https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/learn-consensus#bridging-beefy)
- [Bridges · Polkadot Wiki](https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/learn-bridges)
- [Hyperbridge · Polkadot Wiki](https://wiki.polkadot.network/docs/learn-hyperbridge)
- [https://ismp.polytope.technology/](https://ismp.polytope.technology/)